Natwest and RBS Rewards account to change

Cashback on bills is being scrapped for account holders. 

For years I’ve been shouting about the benefit of having a bank account with Natwest, RBS or Santander. The reason? Each of them has an account where you can earn cashback on your big bills, including Council Tax, energy and mobile phones.

This can be a handy little earner. We’ve been making around £7.50 in cashback every month with Natwest, before the £2 monthly fee. That works out as £66 each year.

Of course, I’m pretty good at getting my bills to be as cheap as they can be. If you have higher bills than us,  pay for things we don’t like Sky TV or have expensive mobile contracts that amount would be a lot higher for you.

However, from February 2020 that short list of providers offering this service shrinks to just one – Santander. Instead at Natwest and RBS you’ll get set rewards worth up to £5 a month before fees.

So is it worth sticking with them? Or should you look to switch to another bank?

How Natwest and RBS Reward Accounts are changing

What you’ll get

On the 1st of February 2020, the Natwest and RBS Reward accounts will no longer give 2% cashback on bills. Instead, they’ll both offer the following:

  • £4 a month for having two Direct Debits worth at least £2 a month each
  • £1 a month for checking your mobile banking app each month

The fee will remain at £2 a month. This means you’ll get a maximum of £3 a month or £36 a year. For me that’ll be a loss of £30 a year, and it’ll likely be higher for many of you.

Should you switch away?

The £36 a year you’ll potentially make from the new rewards system is going to be a lot less than what you are currently getting from your cashback on bills. And it’s less than you can make elsewhere.

You can still get cashback on bills from Santander

One option you’ve got is to open an account with Santander, which offers two accounts with cashback on your bills – The 123 account and the 123 Lite account.

Both offer the following:

  • 1% cashback on water bills, Council Tax (and the first £1,000 if you have a Santander mortgage)
  • 2% on gas and electricity (and Santander home insurance and life protection)
  • 3% back on mobile phone bills, home phone bills, broadband and TV packages

Santander 123 vs Santander 123 Lite

Now each account has a different cost. The 123 Lite is just £1 a month. The main 123 account is a huge £5 a month, but you also get 1.5% interest on savings up to £20,000.

Personally I’d always recommend the Lite version. Though 1.5% interest is better than you can get in many accounts, it’s not the best. And when you factor in the extra £4 to the fee, it’s actually closer to 1.25%.

I’ve written here about savings alternatives where you can get up to 5% in interest.

Is the 123 Lite cashback better or worse than Natwest and RBS Rewards?

How much you make with Santander does depend on the size of your bills. There’s a handy calculator to help you work out what you’ll earn

Personally I’ll make less cashback than I do with Natwest largely because it’s only 1% on Council Tax – my highest bill. Though there’s 3% rather than 2% on phones, internet and TV, it won’t cover those losses as these are all pretty low cost for me.

I think I’ll be getting £4.50 every month after the £1 monthly fee, totalling £54. That’s £12 less than I get right now, but £18 more than the new Natwest scheme.

Switching away from Natwest or RBS

Making a partial switch to Santander

When you switch banks you’re usually making a “full switch”. This closes your old account down. You need to do this for the banks offering things like free cash. But I wouldn’t do it for this Santander 123 Lite account. 

Instead you can just open up your new account and then ask for a partial switch. This means you get to choose which direct debits you want to move over, and you also don’t close your Natwest or RBS account.

Once that’s sorted, you can use your now useful Natwest or RBS account to switch for a cash bonus – and perform the full switch.

Make a full switch for up to £175 in cash

If you’ve not taken advantage of all or any of the bank switching incentives available from other banks, then you could get up to £175 (at the time of writing). Much better than £36. I’ve explained more about how bank switching works here. 

At the moment (November 2019) you can get.

  • £175 from HSBC
  • £100 in vouchers from M&S Bank
  • £100 from Nationwide (if a friend refers you)

You can see the latest offers in my regularly updated list of bank incentives here.

What I’ll be doing

First, I’ll absolutely be opening a Santander 123 Lite account to continue earning cashback on my bills. Since I make more from Natwest I’ll wait until January to do this.

If I hadn’t already switched for incentives all the banks that offer this I would also be switching away to get a cash benefit. However since there aren’t any more I can nab right now, I’ve got two options. Close the account or stick with it.

If I keep it, the £36 a year is better than nothing. However, I will have to find two new Direct Debits to pay out (once I’ve moved overall the bills to Santander). You will probably have plenty for this, though I’m already doing this at Halifax and Barclays for their similarly valued reward accounts. 

So the easier option is to close it, But if I make the two Direct Debits ones for charities, it basically means I’ll be giving an extra £4 a month to good causes alongside my usual donations.

There are also some decent extra cashback offers with partner brands with both Natwest and RBS Reward account which I’ve used from time-to-time. So keeping the account could save me some further cash that way too.

Andy’s deals of the week 14th November 2019

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This week’s deals

Asda: Last chance for free bonus

You’ve until Sunday to take advantage of the Christmas Saver trick that’ll get you free money to spend at Asda. You can add between £30 (get a £1 bonus) through to £280 (get a £15 bonus).

Theatre Tokens: Get 10% off

A good saving on these official theatre gift vouchers which can be spent at box offices across the country and stacked with savings at London’s TKTS discount theatre booths.

Honest Brew: Free £10 and free delivery stack

This is a decent deal to save on craft beer via online shop Honest Brew. You’ll get a free tenner added to your account when you add a tenner, and there’s also a code to get free delivery when you spend £30.

Habitat: 25% off everything

If there’s something you’ve been after at Habitat this could be a good time to snap it up with 25% off everything. Just keep your receipt in case things are cheaper in any Black Friday sale.

Currys: Early Black Friday sale now on

The first of the big shops to cut prices is Currys and there are a few decent looking prices on KitchenAid stand mixers and NOW TV boxes. There is a price promise that says you’ll get the difference back if it’s cheaper on Black Friday. You can read more on my Black Friday deals page which will be updated as more retailers announce plans.

Nectar Double Up now live

If you’ve a stack of Nectar points sitting in your account this might be a good chance to boost their value. However, my biggest warning (there are a few) with this promotion is to only swap your points into vouchers once you’ve found something you want to buy. Here’s my full guide to how it works.

Extra deals

Some offers arrive after I’ve filmed so I’ll add them down here.

Space NK: Spend £100 get a £25 gift card

Until Monday you can get a 25% bonus for shopping at Space NK.

M&S: 20% off weekend

Check your Sparks account, emails and post as there’s a good chance you’ll have got details of the latest 20% off weekend at Marks & Spencer. If you don’t have anything then keep an eye out for next week as these offers are sometimes split over two weekends.

Cash Chats #99 – Getting the best price

Getting the best price is much easier when you know how to compare prices, check price history, use price matching and set price alerts. In this week’s episode Andy takes you through how he does all of these, including the websites and apps that’ll take most of the hard work away.

Plus the latest deals of the week including saving at the theatre and boosting your Asda Christmas shopping funds.

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London travel: How to claim forgotten and owed cash on Oyster and contactless cards

From deposits to unfished journeys to delay refunds, you could be owed some money back from TFL on your Oyster and contactless payment cards.

The BBC reported this week that there’s almost £400million of cash sitting on Oyster cards that haven’t been used for a year or more. That’s a huge amount! 

I’m not surprised. A few years ago, before we moved out of London, Becky and I realised we hadn’t used our Oyster cards for years as we’d moved over to contactless. So we cashed our Oysters back in for a total of £5 each. Easy money that was never going to be used.

And this wasn’t the only time TFL owed me cash. From card reading errors through to delayed journeys, I often claimed back money to my payment cards – both Oyster and contactless.

Here’s how you can claim back your money, and a few other ways to make sure you’re not owed any cash or travelling in London.

How to claim back your Oyster deposits

With more than half of payments now made via contactless cards, it’s likely that if you’re a Londoner that you’ve got your old Oyster just sitting about with at least a fiver sitting on it. You might even have more than one!

And if you’ve visited London at all since 2003 when the cards were introduced you might have picked one up too since journeys were much cheaper with one than via a paper ticket.

Half of the £400 million in unused cash is made up of a £5 deposit. You had to pay this when you first got a card. So if you have an Oyster card at home it will have £5 on it.

The rest of the leftover sum is pre-paid balances, which averages £3.46 per Oyster cardholder. Obviously you might not have anything extra if you didn’t top-up the last time the balance was zero, though at the same time there are 784 cards with a maximum balance of £90 sitting on them according to TFL figures. 

To get the money back you have a few options. If you have registered your Oyster card you can do this online via your Oyster account. Your card will be cancelled once you do this. If not, then you can do it at a ticket machine as long as the balance is less than £10 (not including the £5 deposit). Failing that you’ll need to call TFL.

How to claim back for incomplete journeys

Though the tap-in, tap-out system has made journeys so much easier in London, it’s not perfect. I had times where card readers didn’t work or turned off to ease congestion (and gates were left open as a result) which meant I wasn’t able to show a full journey. I also had a few occasions where I mistakenly used different payment methods at each end (usually when I was using Apple Pay on my phone).

When this happens TFL estimates where your journey began or ended, and there’s a good chance it’ll cost you more than your actual journey.

To fix this you must have registered your Oyster or contactless card with your TFL account. Once this is done you can go in and input where you should have tapped in. Refunds to Oyster will be in the form of prepaid credit, while on contactless it’ll be refunded back to your card.

You have eight weeks to correct a journey, but you’ll only be able to claim three times each calendar month.

Apple / Google Pay warning

A quick aside here if you use your phone to tap in and out. I used to do this on my commute, but occasionally I’d use the same linked card itself. Logic says this shouldn’t make a difference, but it sadly does. That’s because they are treated by TFL as different payment methods. 

This can lead to incomplete journeys, or reduce the chances your total spend will get capped each day and week. So stick to one payment method.

How to claim for delayed journeys

If a journey is delayed by more than 15 minutes you’re entitled to that fare back. In my experience the delays always tended to be about 13 minutes!!

The delay has to have been within TFL’s control, which means it won’t payout if you’ve been delayed due to a strike, security alert, bad weather, planned engineering works or a customer incident (such as someone getting ill on a train).

But you will be able to claim if the delay has been down to things like a signal failure, broken train or non-planned engineering works.

Again, the easiest way to do this is via your online account, so make sure you register your cards if you haven’t already.  claim 

Other places to find lost and forgotten cash

As I’ve written about before, Oyster cards aren’t the only place you could find some long lost cash. From loyalty schemes to cashback sites, it’s worth having a look at what you’ve forgotten.

Deals of the week 7th November 2019

Here’s the latest episode of Deals of the week, plus links to further information about all the offers I speak about and a couple more too!

Free tub of Ben & Jerry’s

If you’ve never used the supermarket cashback app Shopmium there’s a new bonus for signing up. You can now claim the money back for a tub of Ben & Jerry’s ice cream. Here’s how.

Get 20% off all toys at Argos

Until Tuesday you can save big on all toys at Argos as long as you spend at least £20. Do make sure you price check first though – don’t assume it’s just going to be cheaper because there’s a discount.

Up to 10% back from John Lewis

It’s rare to get big discounts at John Lewis, but this one from Vouchercodes.co.uk is offering a £15 gift card when you spend £150, £50 when you spend £500 and £75 when you spend £750. Here’s more on the offer.

Supermarket Christmas delivery slots 2019

You can already book your slots at a few supermarkets for delivery in the days ahead of Christmas, and others will be available soon. Here’s when you can book for each of the big supermarkets.

Two months of Sky Sports for £20 a month

With the big match between Liverpool and Man City this weekend, NOW TV is offering two months of Sky Sports for £20 a month for two months, saving 41%.

Two Vue tickets for £7 or £17 via Vodafone

You can now get two tickets for Vue cinemas for £7 every week from the Vodafone loyalty app (it used to be Odeon). This is free for existing and new customers, but as I wrote in the article above there’s also a trick that lets anyone get access the rewards for £10 every six weeks. Go to a cinema once in that time and those tickets will be £17, or £8.50 each. Go more, and the price goes down. You can then top up by another £10 to get further six weeks and so on. More on this and other Vue deals here.

Nectar Double Up starts on Wednesday in stores

If you’ve a stack of Nectar points sitting in your account this might be a good chance to boost their value. However, my biggest warning (there are a few) with this promotion is to only swap your points into vouchers once you’ve found something you want to buy. Here’s my full guide to how it works.

Lloyds £125 switch offer ends Tuesday

It’s your last chance to switch to a Lloyds Club current account in order to get a £125 switching offer. You can also choose a magazine subscription or six free cinema tickets.

Cash Chats #98 – How cashback sites work

One of the easiest ways to make some extra cash is to shop via cashback websites.

In the last six years, I’ve made more than £4,000 using the main sites – TopCashback and Quidco. Easy money. Free money.

It might sound like it’s too good to be true, and there are risks associated, but it’s a quick win for any savvy shoppers. Here’s how they work and what to watch out for.

Plus this week’s deals of the week, including how to get a free Ben & Jerry’s tub and save 20% on toys.

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How anyone can get Vodafone’s VeryMe rewards

You don’t have to be on a Vodafone contract to access the rewards app VeryMe. Here’s how anyone can get it, and how to use it to save money at the cinema and more.

Vodafone has joined Three (Wuntu) and O2 (Priority) to offer customers offers and freebies via a loyalty app. Like the rival apps, I think VeryMe is hit and miss, but there are some decent offers on there.

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How to get VeryMe rewards

You access the deals via an app. If you’re already with Vodafone then all you need to do is download the My Vodafone app. This lets you manage your account. There’s also a button on the app’s home page labelled VeryMe Rewards. Click on this to see all the deals.

If you’re not with Vodafone then you obviously need to join the network – but you don’t have to ditch your current provider. First you need to unlock your phone. You might actually find it already is, but you can call your network to ask them to confirm. If it is you’ll need to ask them to unlock it. They might charge you if you’re still in the first six months or year of a contract.

Once it’s unlocked you can request a free Pay-as-you-go SIM from Vodafone. I ordered mine online and it arrived within a few days. Whack this in your phone and you’ll be able to connect to the Network and validate the My Vodafone app. You need to get a 4G signal for this – something I struggled with!

Once this is done you can put your normal SIM back in the phone – but you’ll still have access to the My Vodafone app.

You’re nearly all set – but here’s the catch. Unlike similar tricks with O2 and Three, you need to put £10 on the SIM in order to see the deals. And you can only use them for the next six weeks. After this you’ll need to top-up again by £10, and you’ll get access for another six weeks. And so on.

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Are the deals any good?

In the six weeks I used the app (in December 2018 and January 2019) I only actually took advantage of two deals – and they weren’t amazing. However, there were a few freebies which would be welcome if you like Costa Coffee or have a Millies Cookies near you. Here are some of the offers that appeared in my first six weeks:

  • Two Odeon tickets for £7 – this runs every week
  • Free Millie’s cookie – this has run a few times
  • Free Costa Coffee – again, this has been a regular deal
  • Free Tesco lunch meal deal
  • £10 credit to spend on movie rentals at Chili (from a set selection)

Since then I’ve kept an eye on offerings and it’s been pretty similar, with brands like Hotel Chocolate, Greggs and Thorntons also giving away freebies.

There has also been a range of discount codes and free trials, though nothing that stood out to me as better than what you’d find with a quick internet search.

So at first glance, it seems you’d probably break even if you did choose to top-up by £10 every six weeks, if not be a few quid better off. But it’s worth asking yourself whether you’d buy these things anyway, and if it’s worth the hassle just to get the odd freebie.

However, if you regularly go to a Vue to see films then this could be a big saver. Here’s how to make it work.

Is the Vue offer on Vodafone’s VeryMe any good?

*For the first year, this promotion was for Odeon cinemas. but from November 2019 it switched over to Vue cinemas.

The offer is £7 for two Vue tickets any day of the week, at any time of the day. You get one code every week, with new ones issued on a Thursday. And I think that’s pretty good. It’s hard, though not impossible, to beat this £3.50 a ticket offer.

Of course with the £10 top-up, that makes the real cost £17 for two tickets, or £8.50 per ticket. Not so great, especially if you are going on a Tuesday or Wednesday when you can use Meerkat Movies. This offers two-for-one tickets and you can get access for just £1 a year. And if you can go to different chains you can often get the price down on other days.

However there are quite a few Vue cinemas where this is still a good saving, even on child prices. This is especially the case in London and at weekends when prices can be £12.50 or more.

But to really max your savings you need to time your top-up so you go at least twice in a six week period. Do this and the price drops down to £6 a ticket. If you manage three visits, you’re paying just over a fiver. And when the six week period ends you don’t need to add money on straight away. You can wait until your next visit before topping up, starting the cycle again.

> More cinema deals

Is it worth switching to Vodafone for VeryMe?

If you’re already on Vodafone then it’s good to nab these extras, but I wouldn’t move your contract over just for this. You can usually get a far cheaper deal by going SIM only at a challenger network, and you’ll probably save more money every month than you can claim in freebies.

And for most of you I don’t think the Pay-as-you-go trick detailed above will be worth the effort or occasional £10 top up. However, if you do go to an Vue regularly at the weekend – at least twice every six weeks – then it’s a good way to pay less for your tickets.

How does it compare to Three’s Wuntu and O2 Priority?

I’m with Three and regularly check the Wuntu app, while Becky is with O2. I think both used to be a touch better than VeryMe, but they are nowhere near as good as they once were and VeryMe just has the edge now. However the freebies and offers with all three can be very dependent on where you live. 

All three are nice to have features, but I wouldn’t choose these networks just for the extras. Price and signal should be your main motivators. 

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Groupon promo codes and deals – Free £5 credit with purchase

Years ago I used to use Groupon all the time, but even though it’s not quite what it was there are still decent deals to be found, especially on meals and drinks.

I’ll just list the links here, so make sure you read the terms and conditions on Groupon before you buy.

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£5 credit with purchase

> Get £5 credit when you shop at Groupon

Use the code GET5 until Saturday 27th October 2019 to get £5 credit added to your account. Minimum purchase is £1, and the credit will last for 30 days once it’s been applied. It’s possible it won’t work for all customers, but it’s worth a look. I’ve used it on the £5.99 Chili/Odeon deal, which will get me a cinema ticket and £10 streaming credit.

I think Groupon can be pretty good to find deals for local restaurants and bars. In London especially there are loads of cocktail offers which are pretty good. And there are frequently decent cinema deals, which I share here.

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Save 20% on Groupon for new members

First-time users can use the code GROUPON20 to save 20% on all Local deals. You can use the code a maximum of one time. There is a max of £20 off.

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Cash Chats #97 – Supermarket loyalty cards

Are you getting the most from your points?

There have been some big changes to the world of supermarket loyalty schemes. First Nectar added extra ways to earn points at Sainsbury’s, and now Tesco has launched a premium option costing £7.99 a month. Along with the forthcoming Nectar Double Up event, Andy has looked at what the points are worth, and how to make sure you’re getting the most you can for your points.

Plus, the deals of the week bonus episode is now part of the main podcast, so keep listening to find out the half dozen top deals that Andy has spotted this week to save you money.

 

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What are loyalty card points worth?

The best Tesco Clubcard deals

Tesco Clubcard Plus review – is it worth £7.99 a month?

The best ways to collect and spend Nectar points

Why I hate the Nectar double-up points promotion at Sainsbury’s (and how to get the best out of it)

Deals of the week